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  I'm sure this is a really dumb question,but I tried a couple of sitesand couldn't find anything.My grandaughter wants a aquarium for her BDay.She would like to try to make a small pond like one and either put in a frog or turtle with them(goldfish) Is this possiable,anyone ever done it or seen one.Im thinking if it was long enough,20 gal long,and built up high enough on one side with rocks for turtle or frog,it might work??They had a outdoor pond with goldfish,turtles and frogs in it,this is where she got the idea.We know nothing about keeping frogs or turtles as pets,so I"m not sure what their requirements would be.

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Some common aquatic turtles are red sliders, and I know from reading that they often grow larger than people expect them to, and they need a rather large space. I suppose it all depends on what kind of turtle you get - oh and also, a lot of aquatic turtles will eat fish that are small enough, so you might want to be careful putting the two together - especially if your granddaughter is expecting everyone to live in harmony, haha.

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 Yeah,thats just one of the things I was wondering about.The turtle eating the fish.Although she is old enough to know the value of the food chain,I really dont want to practice it!! haha  It was bad enough raising feeders for our lionfish. I'm thinking this is going to involve alot of time and thought,before we proceed with this"great"idea of hers.I have to admit,I am kinda intrigued with the idea though.

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No turtle for you, what your trying to do is in noway enough swiming room.

Frogs are a better idea but then you have to get it crickets like every week and depends on species of frog how setup should be.

If you want a turtle you would have to go to a turtle site and order a Stinkpot (Musk Turtle). That would be fine in a 20 gallon tank. They are one of the smallest turtles in the world full grown there only 4inches. They are also a shallow water turtle.

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Stinkpot? LOL. Funny name.

It does sound like a "Great" idea, but seems like a lot of work. I had toads once and they were crazy eaters, they needed lots of crickets each week, which can get very pricey (and stinky).

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  Thank you for the replies. especially about the turtles.That is the way I would of liked to go.I really don't care for frogs,and I know this would of turned into a family project.I'm sure my Son could of come up with a way to make it work,as far as the layout goes,hes a genius at that stuff,but it was the compatability we were worried about more.and knowing nothing about requirements for turtles or frogs.Think she is going to have to settle for fish,for the time being.

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I think once you've read a little about the needs of frogs and turtles, it'll be a fun and exciting project to undertake Going into it blind is always tough!

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Sounds like a great project, I know some ideas have been put out there already. But have you looked into aquatic frogs?

One that is quite commonly found in stores is the African Dwarf Frog. They grow to about 1.5 - 2 inches. I've read that some people have kept them together with goldfish with no problems.

There is similar called the African Clawed Frog, which should be avoided. They are known to be quite aggressive and eat any fish they can fit in their mouth. They also grow much larger in size, 4 - 6 inches.

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Thank you!! I looked up the aguatic dwaft frog and that sounds like it might be a idea.If we can have them in Maine.There are alot of things like that we cant have.Especially if it isnt native.We can't even have Koi,and were not suspose to have outside fish ponds..We were going to put it on hold for awhile,but I think now is a good time for a project,it will keep the kids mind on something else.The adults too for that matter.

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You could look into crabs too, personally they move around way more then aquatic frogs which i find to be really boring. I had crabs in a 20 gallon some type of fidler crab for a long time. Almost bought a halloween crab last year. Those things were awesome but i had no room for them.